Spaw - "During the elections I kept saying that I didn't really trust Obama while many declared him the latest savior. He is the living proof that it matters little who holds an office, the methodology, the process, will control it all."

Exactly. That is what I have been saying here for years, much to the outrage of Don Firth, who keeps quoting Dante, as if that meant anything.

Thank you, Spaw. Let's see if Mr Firth now hurls Dante at you and accuses you of "colorless neutrality". He probably won't, though, because it usually matters a lot less here to the most argumentative political bellyachers on this forum what is said than who said it.   They have their favorites, those who are magically above reproach, just like Israel...and they have those whom they enjoy slagging and slamming on a regular basis. GfS heads up the list when it comes to being subjected to slagging by those righteous folks, despite the fact that GfS often makes a great deal more sense than most of the so-called "progressives" here manage to.

As a radical progressive myself who had some faint hopes in 2008 that Mr Obama just might make a difference, but has seen those hopes vanish utterly, may I say that I agree totally with what Spaw said in his last post. Yes, HE said it, folks. The patron saint of Mudcat has spoken and he has not approved of Mr Obama! Watcha gonna do now? Who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters?