And if I say "I agree" mg, I might be called a fascist as well! Trouble with our suggestions is that the young women in these flats would resent terribly any interference like that, even the very young ones are feisty and defensive. I had to 'box clever', and never criticise. I worked often in conjunction with a Quaker organisation for prisoners and their families, and their approach was very 'softly softly'. I'm not a Quaker myself, but their work is admirable and non-confrontational. I sometimes wonder if us older women might 'adopt' in some sense a little family, popping in and advising? But it has its dangers. These communities are violent, drug-ridden and aggressive. You risk being told to "FUCK OFF!" loud and clear. (I was, several times!)