""We'd have no objection if that was in fact what they did. But they don't.""

That's just plain bollocks.

Maggie Thatcher tried to move the country towards that, and David Cameron is inclined in that direction, but your kind stops it happening, and screams about private healthcare and private education whenever it is mentioned.

Who was it that yelled blue murder when David Cameron changed the child benefit system for people who cannot in their wildest dreams advance a case for needing it?

It was left wingers so short sighted that they insist that the very people they vilify must have every benefit whether they need it or not.

You say that you would not object if they paid their way, but they wouldn't do so.

How in hell's name can you know when you have prevented it from ever happening?........Educated guesswork is a damnfool substitute for rational thought and sensible trials.

Don T.