Sorch,I'm a rider myself.Cut me and I bleed Yamaha.I have heard Harleys that were so goddam loud that it sounds like an explosion when they're started.I put those guys in the same class as the goofy teenager who blasts his obnoxious music through his car stereo because it's no fun unless everyone else gets to hear your music too.I know plenty of warm and friendly Harley folks,but I think the Biker Icon of the Hell's Angel encourages a lot of assholes and people who want to be assholes to buy Harleys,put on the colors,and lean on other people's sensibilities. Sorry.