I don't know about the deserving and undeserving poor, I thought this thread was about venting your spleen regarding retribution on criminals. Their balance sheet doesn't come into it, just their morality.

A thread such as this may be cathartic for some, especially how frustrating it is for decent people to comprehend the lack of belonging many young people have. Most of those who feel society isn't doing it for them are tucked up in bed though.

By coincidence, and nothing more, it is young people who are relieving their boredom by trying to look outrageous. The retribution shouldn't play to their game and be outrageous though. It must be proportionate, reasoned, defensible in the cold light of day and within the rules society asks of others.

Anything else is throwing turds back at the monkey.