Thanks...I'll keep checking...I actually like those big round ones that blast out heat. I am concerned about blowing circuits etc. at this old camp. If anyone is very good at keeping things going, please come for free to Sunnycamp and help us figure out the dishwashers and circuit boxes and various other things...there is a new caretaker and I am not sure how much she knows...we have had people in the past who are good at these things but they are probably not coming this year (probably because they know we are overly dependent on them). mg