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Thread #117126   Message #3248001
Posted By: GUEST,Teribus
31-Oct-11 - 07:47 PM
Thread Name: BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...
Subject: RE: BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...
Only one study that admits that their figures are only estimates put the number at over 1 million.

Estimates of those that may have been killed Bobert are not in fact deaths. A distinction that seems to be far beyond your grasp or comprehension

All the rest seem to vary between 92,000 and 223,000 but all are actually based on bodies not batch sampled "estimates". Care to tell us Bobert why those who conducted those batch sampled surveys refused to allow peer review of their data, or provide anyone with the details of the questions asked?

Iraq Body Count have two sets of figures, their lower figure represents actual deaths verified and substantiated by two independent sources, their upper figure represents actual deaths substantiated by only one source. From cross-checks with Iraqi Government Agencies and Ministries their figures have proved to be correct within + or minus 13%. Wikileaks War Logs could also add an additional 15,000 - so 112,726 + 13% + 15,000 = 142,381 civilian deaths

Iraqi War Logs (wikileaks) - 109,032 to 2009
Iraqi Health Ministry - 104,658 to 2009
The Associated Press - 110,600 to 2009
Iraq Body Count - 178,000 civilian and combatant deaths to 2011
Iraq Family Health Survey - 151,000 "estimated" to 2006
Lancet John Hopkins Study - 654,965 "estimated" to 2006
Opinion Research Business - 1,033,000 "estimated" to 2007

Iraqi Security Forces - 16,623 to 2010
Iraqi Insurgents - 26,320 to 2011
Media & Aid Workers - 281 to 2009
U.S. Armed Forces - 4,404 to 2010
MNF - 318 to 2009
Contractors - 1,478 to 2011