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Thread #141076   Message #3251479
Posted By: Jim Carroll
06-Nov-11 - 01:03 PM
Thread Name: Palestine (continuation)
Subject: RE: Palestine (continuation)
"You posted the Wiki piece about them, but deleted the warnings that there was no evidence for some of the accusations."
All the accounts of Shatila and Sabra have been verified as having be facilitated by the Israelis driving the killers to the site, opening the gates to let then in, standing by and letting them get on with the slaughter, and providing illumination so they could see who they were killing that is a matter of historical record
What was (but is no longer) in doubt is whether the Israelis actually took part in the slaughter; Robert Fisk's evidence indicates that there was a strong possibilty that they did; and he produced eye-witness accounts that they were actually inside both of the camps while the slaughter was going on; they watched the refugees being taken away to be murdered and saw the women being raped - that is what you have described as "failing to prevent".
Begin was in line to be tried for the Israeli part in the massacres, but was made Prime Minister instead.
This is what you have given your support to.
All the other massacres that you have had pointed out to you, also a matter of historical record you have supported by your "no massacres" claim.
I deleted nothing deliberately (that was your practice when you tried to prove Pakistanis to be cultural perverts still no cut-'n- paste - this has always been a matter of historical record, accepted by all - except you.
Jim Carroll