I agree with Sawzaw that Obama isn't the answer. The rest of that most recent post is blather that while likely true does bugger all to forward the discussion on this thread, imo.

The present problem is in the coming election. The need is to change congress, because it matters little who the president is. Too many people here on both sides of the issue/equation are frustrated with a president who has been able to achieve very little. Some ascribe it to unwillingness on his part, some to darker intentions, and still others bring in all the bad things Obama has done by not being able to overturn decades of crappy politics in Washington, DC.

The USA, if it has any intention of surviving as a country has to begin electing free agents, that is, people not with one or the other party.

I think Bernie Sanders would win as an independent. Before anyone cries, "No he would lose his voice in the senate", think, please.

He has no voice anyway. Why do you not want elected officials who belong to no party and who owe allegiance to only one group of people: the voters? In short words, eff the Repubs and eff the Dems.

As for remarks made by Nader, he did great work against large corporations. I hope he runs for the senate so he can effect some decent change. Please, start looking at who could run as independents and start asking them to do so. The two-party system has to be broken.

imo