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Thread #141076   Message #3258869
Posted By: Jim Carroll
17-Nov-11 - 03:23 PM
Thread Name: Palestine (continuation)
Subject: RE: Palestine (continuation)
"ignored the fact that the UN DID conduct the investigation, and found NO MASSACRE."
I know that massacres did take place in Palestine in 1948 - back in the late sixties we recorded an old WW1 soldier in Liverpool and following the interview his son told us that he and his mates were on the point of embarking for Britain from Palestine when word came that Jewish freedom fighters were rampaging through some villages and clearing out the occupants by throwing hand grenades into the houses. There was a near mutint because some of the soldiers wanted to go back to stop what was happening, but were ordered on board ship by the officers - which pretty well fits in with the Wiki account of Deir Yassin - and also the fictionalised sequence in the television serial 'The Promise' earlier this year.
You want to prove that these were not massacres - feel free.
But to be frank - I have no interest in re-fighting battles that were fought when I was seven years old - I only raised the matter because some arsehole claimed that there had been NO MASSACRES WHATEVER
I am more concerned with the killings that are taking place now, and in seeing peace brought to the Middle East in my lifetime.
I don't think this is going to be achieved by slaughtering non-combatants, the use of chemical weapons and heavy artillery indiscriminately in built up areas, building Berlin-type Walls, starving people already impoverished into submission, stealing taxed gathered under an international agreement, ethnically cleansing a country of entire communities..... or, for that matter, seizing land on the say-so of a two thousand year ild fairy story.
"as long as you can demand that Jews be killed."
Don't you dare pull the "anti Semite" stunt with me - its already been tried on this thread to the disgrace of the person/people who used it - it's hard nosed pricks like yourself who have disgraced the Jewish people by your strutting Zionism and skulking behind the dead of Auzchwithz - you shame the six million by your very presence - you disgrace to the people you claim to support - piss off you twisted perv.
Jim Carroll   

The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 120 fighters from the Irgun Zevai Leumi and Lohamei Herut Israel Zionist paramilitary groups attacked Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, a Palestinian-Arab village of roughly 600 people.[1] The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine.[2]
Around 107 villagers were killed during and after the battle for the village, including women and children—some were shot, while others died when hand grenades were thrown into their homes.[3] Several villagers were taken prisoner and may have been killed after being paraded through the streets of West Jerusalem, though accounts vary.[4] Four of the attackers died, with around 35 injured.[5] The killings were condemned by the leadership of the Haganah—the Jewish community's main paramilitary force—and by the area's two chief rabbis. The Jewish Agency for Israel sent Jordan's King Abdullah a letter of apology, which he rebuffed.[2]
The deaths became a pivotal event in the Arab-Israeli conflict for their demographic and military consequences. The narrative was embellished and used by various parties to attack each other—by the Palestinians to besmirch Palestine's Jewish community and subsequently Israel; by the Haganah to play down their own role in the affair; and later by the Israeli Left to accuse the Irgun and Lehi of violating the Jewish principle of purity of arms, thus blackening Israel's name around the world.[6] News of the killings sparked terror within the Palestinian community, encouraging them to flee from their towns and villages in the face of Jewish troop advances, and it strengthened the resolve of Arab governments to intervene, which they did five weeks later.[2]