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Thread #142452   Message #3307260
Posted By: GUEST,Iona
13-Feb-12 - 02:48 AM
Thread Name: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
Subject: RE: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka!
Hw can you justify [capital punishment] anyway, let alone using fairy stories twisted to suit your own bigotry?

I believe in capital punishment when it is founded upon Biblical principles. The 'two or three witnesses' is crititcal. And the link I posted when I first stated my position on capital punishment explains why. And if you call capital punishment barbaric you're calling God barbaric, because He was the one that instigated capital punishment. Naturally, an atheist doesn't have a problem with calling God names, but that ought to raise a question to a Christian.

There are lots of Christians who take the Bible literally until they get to the parts that say "love one another" and "do unto others" and "turn the other cheek."
Somehow, they find it far more important to take the creation myths literally.


Joe, I take the WHOLE BIBLE to be the Word of God, and there are no contradictions therein. Capital punishment is good when the crime fits the punishment. And capital punishment is 'loving', which, again, is explained in this link. (http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=414111646266). God cannot contradict Himself, but men can. You're accusing me of inconsistency because I believe in capital punishment, and yet if you don't believe in capital punishment, you're the inconsistent one. The Bible says "Love your enemies", but it also says "And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10). People seem to think that the Old Testament God is a different being than the New Testament God. But they forget about Ananias and Sapphira........who were killed in the New Testament.
Back in the beginning days of America, there was still capital punishment used regularly. And in the early to mid 1800's there was a 0% crime rate in most towns. Second, capital punishment deters crime. Criminals don't fear imprisonment, just like children don't fear time out. They don't necessarily like it, but it holds no dread for them. But if you instigate capital punishment for the appropriate crimes, then crime will go down, which has been proven over and over. People are much less likely to commit murder if they know that they'll be forfeiting their life in doing so. God himself provides mercy for murderers in that they cannot be executed unless there are two or three witnesses. Even if all the evidence points to a person being the murderer, we can't execute them until we have witnesses. That's what the Bible says.


""If God says something is good, it is good. If God says to stone adulterers, then so be it. .""

But if Allah says the same thing it is wrong?....""I do not believe that the Christian (Biblical) God is the same God as the Muslim god. Islamism is internally self contradicting, just as any other religion besides Christianity is, which I've explained a number of times before.""

Do you actually read what you are writing? You are internally self contradicting and I simply do not believe that God has anything to do with the claptrap you produce.


There are no gods besides the God of the Bible. The Islamic position on stoning, etc, is unbiblical because they are worshiping a god that is not the God of the Bible. I may agree with the sentence, but I don't agree with the worldview they hold behind it.

The Bible is consistent. The whole Bible.