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Thread #143239   Message #3309556
Posted By: GUEST,Teribus
16-Feb-12 - 12:06 PM
Thread Name: BS: Homs horror (Syria, 2012)
Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
A "Christmas" is this the level you are most at ease with?

"do you condemn the ammuntion supplied by Britain or are you with the other pair of shits?"

I do love how our hypocrite "Jim" seizes on "generalities"

Now Jim-lads contention is this:

"these were sniper bullets now being used on civilians in Homs (or, at the very least, have been used to train the snipers who are now randomly slaughtering those civilians)."

Not at all Jim - these "sniper" bullets are now being used by the brave fighters of the free Syrian army in their tireless efforts to defend those Syrian civilians currently being shot by the Alawite bastards loyal to that murderous, Hezbollah sheltering, cretin Assad. As to them being shot randomly, I would venture to guess there is nothing random about being shot by a sniper - quite a deliberate process I would fancy.

On the subject of facts Jim (You would not recognise one if it jumped up and bit you)

Can we examine those Facts of yours:

"Fact- Britain sold sniper rifle bullets to Assad's regime. These are possibly being used to kill civilians, or have been used to train the killers."

That Jim is not a fact but a string of assumptions:
- You are assuming that 7.62 x 51mm rounds were the rounds sold. What evidence do you have of that? Let me see now 2009 was when those rounds were sold, I think that the UK Government would have held onto every 7.62 round they had for their own Army's GPMG's out in Afghanistan wouldn't you?

- The 7.62 x 51mm is/was standard NATO ammunition it is not specifically made as a "sniper" round - something else that you just assumed.

- "These are possibly being used" is another assumption based upon the square root of S.F.A.

- "or have been used to train the killers" another baseless assumption

So on examination there are no FACTS there at all.

"Fact - Despite the obvious nature of the Assad regime you have proposed that it would be acceptable to provide it with the wherewithal to crush the opposition to the regime."

Oh please tell us in detail the nature of Assad's regime and then tell us who is buddies and allies are - don't be shy now.

Hezbollah; Hamas; Iran all staunch allies and friends of this odious Nazi based regime.

The Syrian uprising began on 15th March 2011 so what exactly has either Keith or myself sold to the Assad Government to assist it in crushing the opposition to their regime? I can swear on anything you like that I have not sold a thing to Syria that could be of any use in putting down the current uprising - neither has the British Government.

Another fact that has escaped you, yet some else has pointed out ammunition is not a weapon, the weapon in this case is the rifle, and I promise I haven't sold any to anybody. But perhaps if you think that ammunition is a weapon could you explain the term "Arms & Ammunition", as you contend that would be needless duplication "Arms & Arms"?