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Thread #143962   Message #3328918
Posted By: Songwronger
25-Mar-12 - 11:04 PM
Thread Name: BS: Guns & laws in the US
Subject: RE: BS: Guns & laws in the US
Interesting digressions. Do they teach in English schools that the lunatic Cromwell was some kind of savior? And if he got rid of the monarchy, how come that old hag is squatting in Buckingham Palace?

The U.S. consititutions' Bill of Rights sets it apart from other constitutions. I'm familiar with Beard's work, and he's right--the founding fathers basically rebelled over taxes, and most of them ended up as the wealthiest men in the new nation. And there was a danger of them becoming a new monarchy, so that's why people like Patrick Henry, George Mason and others insisted on a Bill of Rights. Jefferson. The Bill of Rights limits what government (and the people running it) can do.

Other constitutions "grant" people rights, which is ludicrous. Those aren't rights, they're privileges. The U.S. Bill of Rights says we're born with unlimited freedom, and government can't take that away, except in very narrow circumstances.

Canada's Charter. Pierre Trudeau basically pulled that thing out of his ass, as I recall. It limits individual rights from the outset while it uses words like rights and freedom and democracy in order to make people think it's something it's not. At any rate, in the U.S. you have rights until you sign them away or lose them through abuse. Not so in other countries. And this is why the U.S. is so dangerous to the totalitarian globalization movement.

What else? Do I think guns will stop a shock and awe campaign? Who was that? Richard Bridge. Talks about "survivalist nutters." Boy are you off the mark. Every adult I know has a gun. Women carry them in purses and under car seats, and men teach the kids how to use them. This is a gun culture, not a bunch of survivalist nutters. And crime rates are next to nothing where I live. I pity the chumps who have to use baseball bats for home invasions. Look at the shooter in France the other day. He had 8 guns, in a country where it's DAMNED hard to get guns. Criminals will always have guns, so you need them too.

And yes, I think 200 million guns will make an invading force nervous. More nervous than 200 million baseball bats.

This horse is pulverized.