Bert, anyone over, say, fifty is completely invisible! Female programme presenters for example must be about 25, attractive and vibrant. There is an excellent Historian on UK TV called Mary Beard. She is 'of a certain age' and although perfectly pleasant to look at, not particularly 'sexy' or chic. You wouldn't believe the fracas people have caused by totally ignoring her wonderful knowledge and accessible presentation of Roman life in Britain, only to grumble that her hair is unstyled and grey (!) and she wears no make-up. There are numerous adverts which state that wrinkles are to be abhorred and removed if at all possible. We have conquered sexism to a great extent, but ageism is rife. We older ones are not of any value apparently, as viewers or presenters. It makes me furious, as I detest any form of discrimination.