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Thread #144514   Message #3348664
Posted By: John P
09-May-12 - 10:31 AM
Thread Name: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
Is there any chance at all that you all would talk about the issue at hand instead of each other?

Here is my assessment of the health care law:

* Deeply, ruinously flawed as soon as Medicare for all was scrapped. I'm a left-wing person who has never liked the current health care law for this reason.

* As usual, a bad compromise with the right wing in order to get SOMETHING done. We get some better behavior from insurance companies and they still get all our business, at whatever rates they want. Have you ever tried to negotiate with an insurance company on the details of the contract? Free market, my ass.

* Something the right wing gets to yell "Socialism!!" about, ignoring, as usual, the lack of logic of what they are saying.

* We have an economic system that evolved to give health care only to those who have jobs and then we allowed our biggest employers to ship most of the jobs to other countries. Since these big employers clearly do not have the best interests of the American people - or our economic system - at heart, we have to pass laws to force them to behave. It's too late already, of course, to do any real good on the job front, but at least we now get to keep our insurance if we change jobs.

* Anyone with a brain knows we will have single-payer health coverage within the next few years, since nothing else works at all. I just wish the right wing would get out of the way and let us get on with it. Do they really think they can hold back the clock indefinitely?

* There seem to be two definitions of the word "civilized" floating around. The American right wing defines it as their version of American society, which not even most Americans get to share in. The rest of the Western world defines the U.S. as uncivilized, partly because we don't take care of the health of our citizens.