Songwronger, This is so typical of these know nothings to TRY to insult you, instead of ANY fact finding discussion. They do it all the time. Don, at least sent a link of the 'accomplishments' of Obama's term...the link was of course, from the 'Progressive' website...which at least is an attempt. There were some links, that I've been running down to check out the story...However, sending me that link would be the equivalent of sending them a Rush Limbaugh link, to prove 'conservative' point of view!
These guys know very little about what they are talking about..and Bobert even less(but we love him anyway....at least he appreciates good music!). Don makes up a lot of stuff, and tries to define your thoughts for you..as if he is more capable than you thinking for yourself...then interposes all the hate and bigotry he perceives you MUST have...even if you don't have any. John,..well John just jumps in occasionally, with his usual snide attitude, but once in a while has a lesser heard talking point. NONE of them have a clue, or are willing to acknowledge, that the two party system has been overrun with corruption......banksters contributing to both sides, so both sides are beholden to them, so no matter who wins, their is a debt/favor to return.....they are still brain-locked into the wishful thinking that there really is a difference of the two parties in their agendas, and they can't seem to grasp, that the goal of the corrupt elite is using both the parties to achieve their goal of total domination. They haven't clocked, yet, that the bills and laws, passed by one party, is rarely retracted by the other, once the other party assumes 'power'....while, in the meantime we just slip further into losing our freedoms, and the bankster/corporate/government puppet masters erect themselves a kings....and the people are the subjects.......hey, some people like it that way....the grass is always greener on the other side, to some short sighted fools!...as long as they THINK there is something FREE, that they are going to get.

Regards Songwronger..I've seen your posts...you know the deal!

GfS