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Thread #145217   Message #3360067
Posted By: GUEST,Teribus
06-Jun-12 - 01:35 PM
Thread Name: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
Subject: RE: BS: Wonderful Jubilee celebrations
MtheGM made a comment on the naval uniforms worn by Prince Philip and Prince Charles - The uniforms worn were 100% naval - Ceremonial Day Dress:

Ceremonial Day Dress
This is worn only by Admirals and Vice Admirals along with members of the Royal Family and consists of a tailcoat with white facing and gold edging worn with gold shoulder boards, black and gold belt and gold laced black trousers. It is worn at parades such as Lord High Admiral's Divisions (BRNC) or at state occasions.


For the edification of Steve Shaw and co. The Royal Family costs the UK Tax Payer nothing.

In exchange for the now defunct civil list payments the Exchequer got their hands on what is called "The Crown Estate"

By the bye it should be remembered or recognised by all that the minute you pay your taxes (as members of the Royal Family do) the money is no longer yours (as tax payers or anybody else)- the money belongs to the Exchequer and it is up to them what it gets spent on (That's why "Road Tax" does not get spent on roads).

So what does pay for our Head of State.

Now the defunct civil list that SS referred to:
About £7.5million goes to the Queen - this covers Official "Head of State" type expenses. The remaining £395,000 goes to Prince Philip for his Official "Husband of the Head of State" expenses. But you said the Royal Family as "Head of State" costs us £32million so who pays it? Rhetorical question Steve so don't strain yourself (It isn't revenue gained from Tourists).

I will introduce you to three of the best run enterprises in the United Kingdom:

The Crown Estate - worth £230million a year in profit to the Exchequer - and that is AFTER all costs related to the upkeep of the Queens "Official" residences have been paid (that is the missing £24million from your £32million)

The Duchy of Cornwall - Belongs to the Prince of Wales, heir to the throne - Last year the profit (voluntarily taxable) was £17million and that Dear Steve, is the profit after all costs (including security) for the Prince's family and household have been paid for.

The Duchy of Lancaster - Owned by the Queen, last year the profit (voluntarily taxable) was £9million and that Dear Steve, is the profit after all costs (including security) for the Queens family, excluding the Prince of Wales and his family, and household have been paid for.

So the sums add up as follows - using your now defunct "Civil List" model:

The Exchequer pays out - £7.9million

The Exchequer in return receives - £230million + £8million + £34million = ££242million

Now I would say that that was rather a good deal wouldn't you?

By the way Steve you would not last one week working their schedule and the HM The Queen and Prince Philip are 86 and almost 91 respectively. Don't know about you but being forced to always be impeccably turned out and transported around to be affable and appear interested in everything said to you by complete and utter strangers under the constant gaze of the press sounds a bloody hard and thankless task and pretty nightmarish to me.

Oh by the way Steve how much have you raised for Charity over your course on earth so far?? How many Charities and Foundations are you Patron of?? i.e. what "good" have you done in your life??