I realize this is a little late, and I really don't mean to pile on Lepus, but. . .

Part of the problem that I continually see (and will continue to point out until it ends) in these discussions is an attack upon the person rather than an addressing of the argument. Lepus, you did not give any counter-argument to the points made in Gloria Steinem's letter; all you did is call her names and imply that being old and out of the mainstream (even if it were true) means that what she says is wrong. I don't mind anyone having a different view of things, I'm just tired of people changing the subject when valid (or otherwise) points are presented.

In short - no, make that "in long" - it doesn't matter if one person who posts is noticeably right-wing or if another is old/young or if another is short or if another (as was said about my own dear self in another thread) is better at reading than analyzing. If someone makes a point don't insult her or him; that does not invalidate the point. All it does is push the discussion off track. And that is what this whole campaign has been about.

I'm sorry. Thank God this election is over. I don't think I can take any more of the blather that passes for politics in this country. I am glad that I've been able to vent here. All in all, in spite of the occasional sad detour, this has been a good discussion.