Yep, there you go Sweeney. Point made thank you.

Keith, I'm not going to name the Muslims and homosexuals you have denied - maybe they don't want to be named as such. Your suggestions that you have not done as I have said are inventions. You are "in denial".

The sort of things that both of you say (and the American posters who do and say worse), the promulgations of authoritarianism, sexual shibboleths, based in some cases on the alleged words of imaginary friends, etc, etc - these typify why posting here has fallen and the reasons that people have actually told me that they post here less often.

It's not just what I see and do, it's what others have told me that they see and do.