The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #145624   Message #3370296
Posted By: ollaimh
01-Jul-12 - 12:20 PM
Thread Name: BS: Oldest pottery!
Subject: RE: BS: Oldest pottery!
the first fermentation is african not european, at least the first found. chinses have fermentation that equals european in date. egyptian seems to be the oldest mass produced fermentation. both beer and wine. their first wine was made from coffee fruits. the bean had a bitter cherry. so it would have had caffine in the wine. i am not sure about grapes as wine.

pottery can be used to cook in. done right you can boil water in a clay pot and boil stuff. and you can put pots in fires like a small oven. ;ikely the first use. we have been cooking as long as we have had fire.

the oldest humans in the americas could be thirty thlousand years ago on some tenious evidence, but some can be proved for twenty thousand years ago. they came from east asia. their are direct dna liks, but they link to north asian tribes, not the chinese.