Sugarfoot Jack - it ain't like that any more (and a vertical dipole was probably illegal then too). The first night I put up my Starduster way back then I got to Wales from North Kent - I was just audible on 4 watts and quite audible when I turned on the Bremi boots. I'm now running a UK/CEPT rig in the wrapper with a clever little loaded collinear on the roof and all there is is huge background noise (up to 7 pounds on some channels, and no it isn't SSB) and the occasional twerp from Grays (Essex) rabbiting on the 19 about the size of his boots. Oh, and a net from Rainham (Kent) that talks, again on the 19, about what it had for tea. That's on the UK bands. Zip, nada, nothing on the CEPT.