Haven't been on this thread for a while.

Steve Shaw answered one of my questions by differentiating between tax payers and capitalists.

I'm a capitalist. That means I can become a tax payer which allows me to help fund a social program. Or for that matter, I'm a socialist who realises you need capitalism in order to fund socialist style infrastructure in the first place. I used to call it Labour, but the world is a funny old place.

Even The USSR sold us Lada cars and Zenith cameras....

So there isn't much difference really, except perhaps the lack of a chip on my shoulder.

Ian