Grishka, I may have misunderstood what you were getting at. If so, I apologize.

My reply, however, wasn't directed at your post, but at a certain attitude.

Who, exactly, is trying to ban and seize all legally owned firearms?

Usual response: "They won't say so, but they want to pass law after law until it happens."

But who exactly? And why? And why won't they say so? If they do others like them would flock to their cause.

And what has that to do with keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people - a good idea even if no law could have stopped the Joker.