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Thread #146699   Message #3397522
Posted By: Jim Carroll
30-Aug-12 - 09:39 AM
Thread Name: BS: 'NoTravellers'common UK sign?
Subject: RE: BS: 'NoTravellers'common UK sign?
"Jim, allow me to inform you about the country where YOU live, fom an "official" (NCCRI) report."
And let me inform you that I am aware of the situation here in Ireland and have described it recently - to you - as having reached ethnic cleansing proportions.
I also know and very much respect the work done by Martin Collins and the Travellers organisation Pavee Point
As Owen Woodson has just pointed out, what happens in Ireland is of no relevance whatever to this argument.   
You are, as far as I can see, the only one here defending racist abuse by pretending that its most visible and common form doesn't happen in the UK and the fact that you are doing this by deliberately ignoring the mass of evidence that has been put before you.
YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN ACCESS TO HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF OFFICIALLY RESEARCHED AND ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE - READ IT AND DISPROVE IT OR YOU HAVE NO CASE, and by openly rejecting it from the racist standpoint that I no longer live in Britain so I have no right to offer a point of view, you dig yourself even deeper into your racist dugout My thirty odd years of work with Travellers was in Britain - as if it mattered - most of the links you have been given are British ones - as if it mattered to anybody but a racist/nationalist
The fact that you and others here have not seen these notices are no proof that the do not exist - the facts contained in the information I have put up are proof that they most certainly do.
You should be aware that most of the prejudice and discrimination shown towards Travellers in Britain mainly effects Irish Travellers.
It is, as you say, illegal you put up 'no Gypsies' notices, but a legal precedent (see above) has made it possible that 'no Travellers' notices are permissable under law, or at least, legally defenceable.
And once more, don't you dare play your favourite race card on me. As if it mattered, I was born and lived all my life in Britain, and your using the fact that I now live in Ireland as an argument makes you every bit the racist I believe you to be.
In my experience, Britain is a deeply racist country - I met it daily in London, and the last legal bastion of that racism is that shown against Travellers.
Jim Carroll