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Thread #146699   Message #3397745
Posted By: Jim Carroll
30-Aug-12 - 03:48 PM
Thread Name: BS: 'NoTravellers'common UK sign?
Subject: RE: BS: 'NoTravellers'common UK sign?
"novels aren't true..."
The significance lies in the title - taken directly from the notices and common enough to be used as such.
And no - I didn't make a note of the relevant passages in no 10 - I did find them, but the refererence to the notices comes up on the search pages, as does all the others.
The rest are indications of the continued practice of barring Travellers because of their ethnic origins
My reasons for putting them up was to point out that the practice was current and widespred, and as said, there are plenty more on offer if you search - do your own homework.
"No Travellers" signs in pubs are NOT AN ISSUE, get it? ....."
I'm quite happy to discuss any issue on Travellers but this thread sprang from a denial of the existance of the most visible and, in my experience, most common manifestation of that discrimination.
And sorry - the signs are an issue because they are visible indications that it is acceptable to victimise a social group, any social group because of their ethnic origins.
Personally I would much rather discuss the fact that they are deprived of somewhere to stop, clean water, sanitation and the right to educate their children, that the deprivation they suffer because of bigotry is a major factor in their having a shortened life-span, that they live in constant fear of redneck attacks.....
My only part in choosing this particular aspect was in pointing out that it happened - Keith took it and ran with it.
Can only repeat what I was told about Glasgow - but have no reason whatever to doubt the word of the Glaswegian who told me.
"Nice pic of entrance here."
Are you implying that the poster is lying and not that the notice was taken down so as not to spoil the photograph and frighten the horses?
"So what does that make the Irish Jim?"
Do I hear the pitter-patter of tiny jackboots?
You made it an issue of Travellers - but widen it to teh Irish if that's what turns you on - I won't complain of thread-drift unlike....
"There are lots of pitches around Hertford."
And as I said, Hertford establishment has a progressive policy (sort of) towards Travellers which tends to militate agains such notices.
"Your Glasgow friend said they WERE common once."
He only said it once, but that's not what you mean of course - he said they were common in Glasgow - your point?
He also said "why do you bother with that fascist moron?" - he only said that once as well.
"Considering how much mess they leave when trespassing on open spaces locally"
We seem to be heading for the "they deserve eveything they get" option, which underlines pefectly the importance of dealing with every aspect of bigotry as it comes up.
Jim Carroll