"So you have finally stopped trying to defend the ludicrously indefensible Jim."
Nope - just got back from Galway hospital after having my third biopsy to see if I have prostate cancer (thank you for caring, though your quick response does leve me with the feeling of being stalked)
I should have thought even you could have worked out that I had no intention of naming the pubs which carry the signs (though it was a useful exercise in establishing that your Pakistani quote came from no-one bot yourself)
A reminder of my reply to CS
"I hope that you informed the police about the pubs you saw these signs in?
" No I didn't - I learned from bitter experience that:
A The police do not act on such reports - see my account of reporting a proposed fire bomb attack on Traveller families on Mitcham Common. B Such reports can often lead to harassment of Travellers by police and an escalation of prejudiced activity by local businesses.
And most importantly:
C The Travellers we know prefer to deal with it in their own way...."
You have a description of what can happen to Travellers who stick their heads above the parapet.
I have no intention of putting the Bristol Travellers we recorded last week in the public eye by naming the pubs in the vicinity of their site as carrying these signs (1 photographed and both archived in our recordings), certainly not to appease a goose-stepper like yourself.
The family we met (relatives of Mikeen McCarthy, who we recorded from 1975 to his death in 2004 - obituary in 2006 Folk Music Journal) fled from London following the repeal of the 1968 Caravan and camping act by the Major Govenment, and finally (after having travelled 20 years in London) managed to get a permanent site with guaranteed tenure ouside Bristol (drinking water, toilet facilities and a chance to educate their children for the first time in their lives)
They appear to get on well (or at least - unmolested) with their settled neighbours - I'm not prepared to jeapordise that to satisfy the curiosity of a racist like yourself - you have plenty of evidence of the existence of these signs, from Thatcher's pet, from the Runnymede Trust.... and plenty of other sources - I'm not surprised you don't accept hard evidence, though I am a little disappointed that some here who I've come to respect don't.
An example of what can and does happen.
We recorder some of the Travellers on the site over three days shortly before Mikeen's death.
In the evenings we would travel several miles to a pub which was the only one which would serve a group of Travellers.
Shortly after our visit, the pub changed hands and the new manager took his new broom and applied a 'no Travellers' policy.
They have now found another pub - a little further away, but....
"It was that of these eminent people:-"
And their quotes implicating "All make Pakistanis......?
All your own work Keith.
"Particularly as the news articles I've seen, action does get taken"
It seems like only yesterday you were claiming that you had no knowledge of these signs CS!!! Make up your mind lad (or lass).
If you have any doubt of the police's unswerving dedication to duty to the public, I suggest you read the Hillsborough report.
"I expect they're about as common as "No Travellers","
Little disappointed at your evasive reply to my question Jack - or maybe you wouldn't mind the dame being applied to blacks and Asians!
Jim Carroll