Why go on with Jim yet again, Keith? You surely know by now that just the words "Pakistani" or "Muslim" or "Asian" bring a red mist down over his eyes which literally prevents him from seeing what is being said, but causes him to leap back into mode defensive on principle in his well-known "My mind is made up, do not confuse me with facts" stance ~~ the very attitude, tho he will of course fail to recognise it, which has led to the Chief Constable of S Yorks having been summoned before a Parliamentary Committee to explain his force's lamentable failure for all those years to protect all those unhappy young women or prosecute those unspeakable young men [Times lead story this morning].

~M~