And Steve... if Pete wishes to post further, I'll discuss things with HIM...(maybe on a new thread?) I have had enough of your personal invective.

You ain't seen nothing. And if pete wishes to post further, and say something measured and sensible, I'll discuss things with him. But I will not be hoodwinked by his false charms, unlike yourself, and by his disingenuous, thoroughly dishonest misrepresentation of himself as a thinking, harmless creationist. He's enjoyed your fawning, obsequious patronage for far too long, and he's fed on it mightily to the perpetual annoyance of the thinking, measured people and hard-working scientists who like to contribute here.
   
Further, deponent sayeth not

Pigshite. Talk real talk to real people for a bloody change. There are one or two of us about, you know. See the light.