I've been following this thread since its inception and have followed the various strands with some amusement. For the record, as an unimportant onlooker, I feel that Snail has defeated Steve Shaw hands down. It's interesting to note that Steve Shaw has finally got his potty mouth under control, presumably in an attempt to give himself some credibility. Good move but doesn't change the outcome - he still comes across as evasive and a bit slippery.

I do not understand why anyone is responding to pfss and GfS. The former is clearly determined not to think, with a mind more closed than a closed thing and the latter appears to be completely irrational. It seems to me that both are trolls and should be ignored - neither has anything to contribute. There again, I suppose you could say that neither have I.