"No-one on this thread reported seeing signs for years."
I suggest you read through it again.
You are now demonstrating why it is a total waste of time discussing with you.
I know that these signs existed in great numbers throughout the time we worked with them we saw them and experienced their effects. They were a part of our work - we helped list and photograph them for one of the Traveller organisations - our work was passed on to the GLC and helped start to start a move to tackle discrimination of Travellers (until Maggie dismantled it)
At the numerous lectures we gave, they featured as an example of anti-Traveller bigotry; at no time were we contradicted and often we were given further evidence, London - Sheffield - Manchester - Birmingham.
They were a fact of our lives for over 30 years.
Our recorded collection includes interviews where people spoke of them, and far worse examples of discrimination.
Our notebooks are full of references to these signs and as we write up our work, they are part of our record.
I am more than happy to accept that people have not seen these notices; up to the time we went out we were not aware of them, or for that matter, that there were any Travellers in the London area. As somebody (Don?) pointed out, why should you notice them if they don't concern you.
You have been given references to these notices throughout this thread yet you have not produced a single scrap of evidence as to why the organisations, councils, charities like The Runnymeade Trust.... should have lied about them, instead you describe them as seatwarmers who do what they do to keep themseves in a job.
You called me a liar a few postings back and when I responded with several exaples of references to the signs - no acknowledgement, no withdrawal... nothing - nor did I expect any.
Your sole defence for your case is that which you have just reiterated "you haven't seen them so they can't exist" - crassness in the extreme.
I am certainly not unhappy in finding myself at odds with you again; you are a bigotted racist and it would disturb me greatly to find we have anything in common.
What is happenning to Travellers in these islands in comaparble to ethnic cleansing - that was clear in the early sixties with the making of 'The Travelling People', and things have worsened sing John Major withdrew the law making it obligatory for councils to provide a set number of sites.
These signs are certainly not the worst form of discrimination, but they are part of their dehumanisation - the Yellow Stars of the Travelling people.
You have here, as you have on every other thread fillibusted the subject into meninglessness - I have no doubt whatever that you will, as usual, insist on having the last word.
If you have one single shred of evidence to prove that I or any other of the people who have given you evidence of this or any of the other forms of racist bigotry (other than "I haven't seen it"), feel free to present it - otherwise - please **** off.
Jim Carroll