That post from "Musket," rather demonstrated what I meant about the kind of attitudes that explained the old "No Travellers" signs being very much with us today, even though the signs themselves have generally vanished in the parts of England Mudcatters are familiar with at least. I'm sure their equivalent are still in evidence in too many places around Europe, possibly even in some parts of the UK.

Jim seems to think arguing about whether the signs in pubs are still around is nitpicking. I disagree. It's important to know your enemy, and not fight over the territory they've abandoned. Doing that makes it easier for them to escape effective challenge.