Gnu - The point is that numerous people from Hussein to the Taliban have threatened to bring the west to it's knees. None of them have succeeded. Which is why threats sound so ridiculous coming from so called grown-up politicians.

As you say, none of this shit does either side any good. They should learn from how others have moved from a culture of confrontation to one of reconciliation with amazing results. And I don't believe for one minute that if precious power were denied the government and it affected the US as well that such a protest would last long. Do you?

DtG