""And while we're at it... get rid of the excessive packaging that is a waste of resources & landfill space. Make it mandatory that manufacturers have to "take back" their products at "end of life" and see how fast things change. Fat chance on Congress passing that.""

YES, YES and YES!

All that Gnu said and all of yours SG.

We have rules in the UK that companies selling electrical goods must offer disposal of what they are replacing (e.g. sell you a fridge and take away your old one for proper disposal or recyling).

It hasn't yet persuaded them to make longer lasting goods, but as the price of disposal goes sky high, it might.

We just have to wait and see, and hope that they aren't doing as one UK waste disposal company did, sending what should have been recycled to landfill in France.

That was really dirty, akin to throwing your trash into your neighbour's garden.

Don T.