I would not be surprised over either of them..or O'Malley or Erdo..know almost nothing about either but have not heard bad things. Shonborn seems the best to me so far..also one from Philippines seems OK but I don't know. I do not know why Bertone is even mentioned but he is in the top 4 now I think...isn't he a big part of the problem..the various multiple interacting problems? One who should never ever be is the one from New York. I get the heebie jeebies from him and he is mentioned as one of the top three by SNAP as do not elect hands are not clean.