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Thread #149360   Message #3487908
Posted By: Jim Carroll
08-Mar-13 - 05:18 AM
Thread Name: BS: Israel condemned by UN
Subject: RE: BS: Israel condemned by UN
"All those accusations against IDF are disputed as propaganda."
By the proven perpetrators of the crimes, unless you care to provide other evidence - you haven't so far.
"She saw bulldozers clearing an area at the edge of the camps."
Where does she say that ?
There is a mass of independent evidence which says the bulldozers were burting bodies and destroying houses "crime scenes".
Again, if you have evidence to the contrary, apart from claims of innocence from the convicted perpetrators, feel free to put it up.
"That is where defended and fortified buildings would have been."
The only defended and fortified building was the one used by the Israelis as a viewing platform for the massacre - the refugees had no such construction; if they had, 3,500 of them wouldn't have been butchered.
If you have evidence to the contrary, again, feel free, otherwise this is yet another invention of your own.
"No-one could observe into the narrow maze of streets in the vast sprawling camps from there"
The Israelis, as have all active troops, were equipped with high-powered state-of-the-art viewing equipment - they'd have to be totally myopic not to have noticed the systematic and brutal slaughter of 3,000 unarmed non-combatants - and you appear to have overlooked the reports of Israeli troops witnessing the rapes and killings at arms-length distances.
I appear to have missed the claim from anybody that the Israelis were unaware of what was going on - their claim was that they failed to stop it.
Are you privy to the layout of this camp in order to make this off-the-cuff claim - would be grateful if you'd let us all have one.
"She herself had seen no signs of the civilian massacre from the top of her hospital deep within the camp, or during her long walk out."
You've just claimed that shje was never in a position to witness any massacres.
"She was in the hospital throughout the massacres, and was unaware of them."

nowhere in her letter does she mention walks, long or short, nor have you mentioned before her viewing facility from the top of her hospital, this is pure invention on yourt part
On the contrary, tyou have insisted throughout that she was never in a position to see anything

Make up your ******* mind - she either was or she wasn't?
Jim Carroll