Bobert, I hear you and Songwronger's nonsense irritates me as well. But I feel obligated to defend him here.

I don't think that it is fair at all to compare Songwronger to Martin Gibson. Songwronger has a point of view that, to say the least is extreme and he says a lot of things which I believe, to say the least, are nonsense. But he seems to be pushing a point of view rather than trolling as sport and I have not ever seen him resort to any of the MG staples such as personal attacks, profanity, sexual innuendo and misogyny.