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Thread #149360   Message #3496265
Posted By: Jim Carroll
29-Mar-13 - 05:15 AM
Thread Name: BS: Israel condemned by UN
Subject: RE: BS: Israel condemned by UN
"Fisk arrived after the massacre."
Apart from the eye-witnesses, whose testimony you have rejected out of hand as being biased, untrustworthy, anti-Israeli, bigoted....... everybody other than the perpetrators and survivors "arrived after the massacre" That is the nature of all crimes and all investigations into crimes.
You have even dismissed the statements of the Israeli soldiers who confessed to co-operating with the killing and had conscience enough to speak out .
Fisk was one of the first on the scene and made a point of gathering information from everybody he could and published what he came up with; he later followed that up with a long term investigation and published his findings on that.
Dr Ang Swee Chai was there; she lectured on her experiences (you have yet to explain where your ridiculous "book cover" claim came from), explaining what happened in detail (your utterly stupid suggestion that medical staff who were treating casualties in the middle of a massacre didn't know what was going on really does sum up your mindless defence of all this)   
Amnon Kapeliouk painstakingly researched the massacre, scoured all the available evidence, weighed it up and published it, giving all the references he had drawn upon; those references came from both the eye-witnesses and the Israelis - both sides of the argument – his sources are exhaustive and impeccable.
It remains, as far as I can see, the most comprehensive analysis of the massacre - from an Israeli Jewish academic - if a bit long for some people.
You have been given all this and much more - in return you have presented unattributed statements which, as you have failed to identify your sources, leave the impression that they are your own inventions - you made up facts to get the Israeli regime off the hook, even going so far as to implicate the 3,000 victims in terrorism by suggesting that they were armed and could fight their killers- another bottom-of-the-barrel.
Your Alice in Wonderland claims regarding the illumination provided beggars belief - torches, car headlights (what ****** cars - perhaps the Phalangists drove into the camps in Jags and Mercs and didn't arrive on Israeli-provided transport as documented - or maybe they nicked cars from the local car parks in this refugee camp - are you out of your skull?)
You have rejected every single piece of evidence that doesn't back up the Israeli case and have provided none of your own - not a scrap - and you call us bigoted!!
You have now topped your case by presenting the United Nations as a 'Muslim Plot' to make your non- existent case.
Jay-sus
Jim Carroll