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Thread #150086   Message #3498153
Posted By: Jack the Sailor
03-Apr-13 - 03:19 AM
Thread Name: BS: Are Atheists really Atheists or......
Subject: RE: BS: Are Atheists really Atheists or......
If a kid reads the book and looks up the word Delusion, what will he find?

Is there anything in the book to say that he does not mean mental illness? When asked about it in a debate, he talked about "fairies at the end of the garden."

Delusion
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.[1] As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception.

Delusions typically occur in the context of neurological or mental illness, although they are not tied to any particular disease and have been found to occur in the context of many pathological states (both physical and mental). However, they are of particular diagnostic importance in psychotic disorders including schizophrenia, paraphrenia, manic episodes of bipolar disorder, and psychotic depression.

Websters

de·lu·sion
noun \di-ˈlü-zhən, dē-\
Definition of DELUSION
1
: the act of deluding : the state of being deluded
2
a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated
b : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs


This is the description of the book on his website.

>>>The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins

Richard Dawkins, in The God Delusion, tells of his exasperation with colleagues who try to play both sides of the street: looking to science for justification of their religious convictions while evading the most difficult implications—the existence of a prime mover sophisticated enough to create and run the universe, "to say nothing of mind reading millions of humans simultaneously." Such an entity, he argues, would have to be extremely complex, raising the question of how it came into existence, how it communicates —through spiritons!—and where it resides. Dawkins is frequently dismissed as a bully, but he is only putting theological doctrines to the same kind of scrutiny that any scientific theory must withstand. No one who has witnessed the merciless dissection of a new paper in physics would describe the atmosphere as overly polite.<<<

Dawkins is frequently dismissed as a bully, but he is only putting theological doctrines to the same kind of scrutiny that any scientific theory must withstand.

a bully
a bully
a bully His word.

He is called that because he is unkind and impolite (my opinion)

"he is only putting theological doctrines to the same kind of scrutiny that any scientific theory must withstand." (His approved words.)


How would his statement about Islam being evil after confessing his ignorance stand up to that?

How should we take a person speaking as a "scientist" making public pronouncements about "evil" a concept with zero scientific meaning? Its a bit like Stephen Baldwin, the Actor and Creationist activist lecturing us on zoology don't you think?