"If religious people (of any faith) wish to persuade others that their views should carry weight then they must be prepared to engage in robust debate. "

Now that is a serious delusion! Do you honestly think that debate persuades people of anything? Where is your evidence sir? Show me one study please. Religious people persuade tens of thousands of people every day without debate. Do you ever find salesmen debating with you over the merits of a home or car? Would you buy from such a person?


MtheGM, Mr. Dawkins started the conversation with a put down. You don't think that is "picking a fight." Very well. Go to a pub and try it. Obviously you think you can do the same. Call people delusional to their faces and publicly pretend that the word does not mean what it says, that it does not carry the baggage that it carries, that it does have the origin that it has.

So you admit that it is a put down, but you think that is justified to try to get me to change my mind.

No sirs. That is not debate that is bulling.

Mr. Dawkins stretched the meaning of the word from referring to individuals and groups not accepting generally accepted evidence to at least 3 or 4 billion not accepting HIS version of the evidence.

That sirs is call lying. So you want to lie to me and bully me and expect me to change my mind. Yeah, I'm the one who is suffering from a delusion. :-)

You are wasting your time tossing Mr. Dawkins "pearls" before this swine. In fact you might want to smell those pearls before you pick them up.

Take care boys.


God Bless you!