Jon. I am only suggesting that the request probably demonstrates that The Mudcat is as universal as it ever was, if not more so.

A "no I haven't a clue" post to a thread that has not received a satisfactory answer, whether from Italy or anywhere else will at least keep the thread alive until someone does answer it. The more attention that the request receives, the more chance that it will be answered.

In truth I do not think that Malcolm's "I do not know" post was not there when I posted the link.