The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #150339   Message #3504017
Posted By: Rob Naylor
15-Apr-13 - 08:39 PM
Thread Name: BS: Who are the editors here?
Subject: RE: BS: Who are the editors here?
GfS: Again, spirituality is different from 'religion'...and unless you've had a substantial spiritual experience, it would be like trying to 'explain' an orgasm to a virgin...and in like manner, listening to a virgin say there is no such thing as an orgasm, and therefore saying they don't exist is just silly to those who know differently!
Now there might be different reasons for a person NOT experiencing and orgasm, such as fear and insecurity about having one, and those people, often women, may group together and 'discuss' every aspect of being 'fulfilled' and coming to a consensus of how they are above it all..but the fact remains, they haven't had one, and for them to tell other women, who have had one, that having an orgasm with their husband doesn't really exist is just them explaining that they have missed out on something, that they have no idea about. Those who have had one can remember, what it was like before they had one...likewise, those who are frigid, can only 'play down' any 'need' for one.
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It's not a matter of 'believing things ABOUT' an orgasm, like belonging to a 'church', but rather, having the actual experience...and there isn't a way around it in this life.
Having a spiritual experience or having an orgasm is something that is available to everyone in this lifetime, and your husband would LOVE to accommodate your request...much like God regards his people as his Bride!!


What a ridiculous analogy!

How about an alternative....One group experiencing orgasms and putting the explanation down to the idea that there's an invisible 3rd (or 2nd in the case of masturbation!) party in the room "facilitating" the orgasm and without that presence an orgasm wouldn't be possible, whilst another group may also experience orgasms but puts them down to physical and neurochemical reactions and responses to internal and external stimuli on their own bodies, rather than the need for an invisble presence during the process.

I can sit on a mountaintop in the breaking dawn and feel huge awe, and deep, deep happiness, but I don't need to postulate an invisible friend to explain it. It's in me! Other people hear voices or experience visions, and we know that these come from within their own brains...Charles Bonnet Syndrome, for instance, or Schizophrenia, to take just 2 examples. So why shouldn't the experiences other people see as "spiritual" come from within their own brains, rather than being the result of a connection with an intangible external consciousness?