Ho hum. Jim, the only "desperate attempt" going on here is the desperate attempt of a number of disagreeing males to prove that they are right and the other guy is wrong, that they are rational and the other guy is stupid, that they know what they're talking about and the other guy doesn't. A bunch of "right men". To do this, they are willing to spend hours a day blathering on about whatever they think, and denigrating the people they talk to, while barely pausing for a single breath to EVER try and sincerely grasp what it is that the other guy thinks.

For the most part, it's a group orgy of non-listening.