Before Dawkins the word delusion was not applied to religion except as a joke. Now among certain circles it is used regularly to apply to religious people as if we are not clever enough to see through your little joke.

When I started talking about this I was saying that people who agreed with Dawkins were saying that religious people were deluded. No no no they said it is not a MEDICAL thing.

You are not fooling me cringe. No one is a little bit deluded. The word is ALWAYS a mocking putdown or a medical diagnosis. If someone is going to smugly call me deluded to my face. There is no room for reasonable debate.

That's the way Dawkins frames the debate. And Steve Shaw and musket. there is no possibility for a reasonable debate about religion with them.