If a person is a happy, productive and contributing member of society, but they happen to be attracted to a member of their own sex, and if they happen to be happily partnered with another person who is similarly oriented—and if they in no way impinge on the lives of others in a negative way, then why should anyone else have anything to say about the matter?

The nature of their relationship is their business and no one else's.

And if someone else constantly yammers on about how "unnatural" or "immoral" or "disgusting" they are, that's their problem, not the problem of the same-sex couple.

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Guest from Sanity, the fact that if "gay" is in the title of a thread, you go for it like a moth to a flame says a great deal more about you than it does about the subject. I don't know what your problem is, but it's obvious that you are obsessed with the subject and you will do all manner of backflips and twists to avoid any idea that same-sex orientation is inborn, whether genetic or congenital, and insist that it is a free choice. Apparently, according to you, someone wakes up in the morning and says, "Gee! I think I'll be gay!"

I think the problem is that you are a closet gay and are terrified of coming out of the closet even to yourself, and are in severe denial.

And your hysterical response to anyone who insists that the scientific findings indicate that it either is genetic or at least has a genetic component, indicates your fear. You don't present any reasonable arguments against the scientific data other than to claim that it's "politics" and then you attack the person, such as me, posting the argument.

You attack me with childish insults and you go so far as to attack my family when you don't know anything about my family, and then on the basis of the fictions you concoct, you attack my moral character.

And as far as your other claims are concerned, if you are indeed a family counselor, you have established that you haven't the vaguest knowledge of the principles of psychology and are, therefore, a charlatan.

Screen writer and writer of film scores? I note that you don't mention the name or names of the films you have written or composed music for. And you may as well not try to bull anybody because one can easily look up that kind of information on the Internet Movie Data Base. Or is your script and music something you wrote on speculation and never got produced?

GfS, you are seriously in need of help.

Don Firth