Here we go again.


" a new sort of society"   

And just how is life in la-la land these days?

Face it, self-interest is at the heart of capitalism.   Self-interest is human nature. And without an appeal to self-interest, no society can function on the long-term.

Any government is imperfect.    The best system devised has been capitalism combined with representative demoeracy.

No purely socialist system has ever worked.    Don't try citing Sweden, for instance-- if Leftist idealists can read, they will discover, as I have noted --years--earlier, Sweden is in fact heavily dependent on mostly large Swedish capitalists to fund its welfare state.    Cuba, the other darling of the Left, is introducing more and more capitalism.   And Cuba is a police state--try the sort of dissent you find here on Mudcat in the political bilge below the line and see where that gets you in Cuba.   Or perhaps you prefer North Korea--another Socialist paradise--just ask the current leader.

It's faintly amusing how many threads below the line deserve quick deaths.