Thread creep is natural Lavengro - I don't think it is an issue. I could be (and probably am) wrong about Nasty Nicks involvement with the folk world but I felt it was more that he believed us Folkies to be rampant nationalists - Which FAF showed we were not!

Tunesmith - I am not at all sure if Britain, or the US for that matter, getting out of Iran and Afghanistan would help at this stage. All criminals would love for the police to get out of their towns. All bullies would love the teachers to get out of schools and those reveling in the chaos created by terrorism would love to be left to their own devices. Now, I have no argument with anyone questioning why and how 'we' were put in charge but that is a different issue. What I am questioning is the wisdom of leaving the innocent people of those countries to the mercies of those who would apply their kind of rule with much harsher force.

I don't necessarily believe that this will happen. The truth is, I don't know but am simply applying the 'better the devil you know' philosophy. I also consider myself lucky to not be in a position where I have to make the decision that would affect millions of lives and, even though I have little time for politicians of all types, I can sympathise with them in this no-win situation.

Cheers

DtG