In which case, Keith, his possible 'defence' of having been tortured and rendered mentally ill or whatever won't hold water in court. It also seems unlikely that TWO insane men joined forces to perpetrate this atrocity. Regarding the verse/s from the Koran, surely any world religion should see that such exhortations are not at all appropriate nowadays. In the OT one is encouraged to 'smite' various non-acceptable groups, grab the jawbone of an ass and whack people, and in a general way commit violent and murderous acts. But no sane person would advocate such behaviour today. Would they....?