Re several of the above posts. If you think there's no-one out there (or maybe even on this thread) who isn't blaming the entire Muslim population for the death of Lee Rigby, think again.

Perhaps you haven't noticed the newspaper reports but the entire British far right has been mobilising its forces in hatred of the Muslim population for over a week now. Tomorrow, one of the biggest such organisations is organising a march/motorcade (festooned with swastikas, I shouldn't wonder) from Woolwich to Lewisham Islamic Centre. Why Lewisham Islamic Centre? Because their presence on the steps of that building, plus their inflammatory hate filled speeches, will be specifically designed to provoke a backlash among the Muslim community. The mobilisation time is 13-00, if anyone wants to go along and make effective use of the English right of free speech. But God help you if they get hold of you when the police aren't around.

I don't what any of the other sick sad sods of the far right are doing, but I do know that the English Defence League is mobilising no less than 60 demonstrations across the country. This is in addition to the dozens they've already held, and at each demonstration the message will be the same. "Packies out!" And God help anyone they run into who is not of the same skin colour as them, or the same sexual orientation, or the same religion or political persuasion. God help us all in fact, because there is no doubt that the far right see this as their Kristallnacht and they will use it to whip up as much hatred and bloodshed as they possibly can.

Keith A. Now what is your opinion of the Woolwich incident Fred?

Absolutely sickening and appalling. I hope the perpetrators are banged up where they belong for the maximum sentence the court can hand down. My concern lies not with the barbarians who did the killing, but with all the innocent people who didn't.

Sorry M, I just can't follow your logic. Who said anything about recalcitrant rectors and vicars? And while you're at it, when have I ever threatened anyone on this site with "severe physical violence".