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Thread #150885   Message #3526393
Posted By: Jim Carroll
14-Jun-13 - 12:02 PM
Thread Name: BS: Unarmed soldier killed, (London-May 2013)
Subject: RE: BS: Unarmed soldier killed, Woolwich (London)
"I provided links and extracts at the time.
Deny that Jim."
Absolutely - you have never at any time provided a link to anything like your horrendous statement, but if you have it should prove no problem to provide it again.
Nowhere in your link toes anybody try to implicate Muslims as a cultural group, let alone claim that they are all tainted with cultural implants.
What is said is as follows:
"I accept that on the basis of the evidence presented in court, this Derby gang was no different from that of the white grooming posse convicted in Cornwall in November. They too preyed on helpless, easily-pleased young white girls who were then used and destroyed. Most paedophiles in this country are white, and their victims too. Just because they harm their own doesn't make it less abominable or more acceptable. What does it matter to a young, white, rape victim whether her violator has pasty or dark skin? And it is gratifying that reputable figures like Barnado's Martin Narey and the judge in the Derby case have spoken out against wholesale racial scapegoating. We know extremists use race and crime statistics to stoke racial hatred against Britons of colour and from religious minorities. I have sometimes been a pin-up girl for the repellent BNP and English Defence League, whenever I criticise Muslims, or Asian values or black Britons who do wrong. You feel degraded and treacherous when this happens."
Coerced marriages have never been claimed as reasons for pimping - on the contrary, it has been said throughout all this that the behaviour of the men in all this is against Islamic teaching and those who are involved have rejected their culture.
It is extremely difficult to get actual numbers of those committing the crimes but at the time Jack Straw made is statement 2011 (which in no way implicated the culture as a whole) the figures were as follows:
In thirteen years up to then there had been 17 court cases leading to the conviction of 53 Muslim men - wonder what happened to the other 2000447 British Muslims if it was their religion wot made them do it?
Now how about some figures to back up your statement if you don't mind.
A reminder of exactly what you said.
"Don I do now " believe that all male Pakistani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency" but only because of the testimony of all those knowledgeable people, and always acknowledging that only a tiny minority succumb."
Jim Carroll