Dave the Gnome,

Cocentrating on my discussion with Mike, I completely missed your last two posts.

I've just checked back and I must say that your point is well taken and closely in accord with what I have tried to say. It also carries the weight of experience of working closely with Muslims, and understanding that the vast majority want exactly the same things that we want.

""There is no lip-service to "good Moslems", I know they are in the majority and I am friends with a lot of them. I shop with them. I drink with them (Yes, some do like a tipple!) and I even have my haircut with them. Remember, Jim, I work in Bradford at a place that employs around 3000 people with a high representation of Moslems. Where do you live and work now?

(my emphasis) Anyhow, I have stated over and over again that the religion is not the people and the people are not the religion.""

The last sentence is particularly succinct and elegant, and some people would benefit from having it framed and displayed in a prominent position.

Don T.